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  "Unique" Achievements By the WTS - Special Only Through The Ability of the World to Do The Same

  by konceptual99 in

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  bit of a long winding topic title but the thread on the dub in the bunker video made me think of what thing the wts does that are seen as basically impossible for anyone else to do and therefore evidence of holy spirit and god's blessing, yet those same things are done by the rest of the world day in, day out.. i have a few examples:.

  - ability to buy a feck off big printing press and print thousand of magazines an hour.

  only that every other big publishing organisation uses the same presses to do the same thing.. - ability to get inexperienced people to act using an acting coach as well as produce feature length films with reasonably high production value levels and special effects.

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  keyser soze

  Don't forget about the worldwide preaching work. The holy spirit must be behind that. Except when it comes to yielding actual results, that is. Then the holy spirit is pretty impotent.
  
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  Here is a quote from the Olympic creed:-

  by The Rebel in

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  " the most important thing in the olympic games is not to win but take part" .

  yet according to the daily mail, the entire russian olympic team will today be banned from competing at the rio games next month as punishment for their country's state sponsored doping programme.

  it therefore seems to me the olympics has become associated with doping & drugs, and politics becoming an integral part of the games.. do you think that the 2016 olympcs can still unite countries in a positive way?.

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  keyser soze

  Maybe it's just me but I'm finding the Olympics less and less interesting and exciting. There's the cheating obviously but also the financial corruption and harm it causes to the people who live there.

  Personally, I haven't really found them interesting since they started allowing professionals to compete.

  I get that they're the best athletes in the world at their respective sports. And I was as captivated as any American by the original "Dream Team".

  But their was always something endearing about watching amateurs compete and succeed at the highest level. Most of the pros are simply there out of a sense of obligation. For them, winning a gold medal is rather anti-climactic in comparison to their professional accomplishments. For a guy like Andy Murray, for example- I doubt a gold medal in the Olympics is anywhere near as meaningful as winning his first Wimbledon.
  
  
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  JW Acumen & Education = NO VALUE IN THE REAL WORLD

  by Black Man in

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  having been out of the cult for a few years now, i can finally sit back and accurately access the good, bad and the ugly, especially as it relates to education and having a sense of self-worth and realizing your potential.

  in my opinion, religion is a total crock, but at least in some religions there is at least some value that you can translate your experiences and education gained in such into the real world.

  for example, the mormons have their own accredited university where you can obtain a degree and you can actually put that down on your resume and use it in the real world.

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  keyser soze

  I think it's by design that JWs are so lacking in social skills. It's what keeps so many trapped inside.

  If they venture out into the 'world' to see what it has to offer, most are ill-equipped to deal with it, and come running back to the organization believing the world is evil, and the congregation is the only safe haven.
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  Speculation about GT

  by aintenoughwiskey in

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  what were/are your speculations about the great tribulation.

  unless those days were cut short no flesh would be saved?.

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  keyser soze

  When the Cubs win the World Series.
  
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  What would you like to have known about JWs before deciding whether to get baptised?

  by slimboyfat in

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  if you could go back in time and tell yourself one thing about jws would you do it?

  and what would you choose to say to yourself?

  do you think you could have convinced yourself not to get baptised if you chose the right thing to say?

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  keyser soze

  Hard to say, because I was so convinced it was the truth at the time. I really had no other aspirations at the time. But a more objective view of their history may have given me pause. Also knowing the new system wouldn't be here yet in 2016.

  Ultimately, I would like to go back and tell myself that I didn't know nearly enough about the world to be so sure of myself.
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  "What is in it for me."

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  so if there was no promise of a "reward" for faithfulness...no paradise...no eternal life etc, how many witnesses would stick with the "faith"?.

  sure, the reward might be "making god happy", but he supposedly holds out the paradise promise with eternal life as an incentive right?.

  before anyone says, that's what satans challenge regarding job was about, just think.

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  keyser soze

  I always found this to be one of the biggest frauds of the JW religion- their claim that they serve god solely out of love, and not due to any promised reward of eternal life. I, too, often wondered how many would stay in if the new world weren't constantly dangled in front of them.
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  Is it me or were the experiences at the assemblies really contrived?

  by keyser soze in

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  my favorite were the ones where they were reading a wt publication in the break room at work, and an inquisitive co-worker, thirsty for spiritual knowledge approaches them.

  this leads to an informal witness, which eventually leads to bible study and baptism.. in all my years of working, i've never had anyone show the slightest bit of interest in what i was reading while i was on my break at work.

  but as i said, maybe it's just me..

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  keyser soze

  My favorite were the ones where they were reading a WT publication in the break room at work, and an inquisitive co-worker, thirsty for spiritual knowledge approaches them. This leads to an informal witness, which eventually leads to bible study and baptism.

  In all my years of working, I've never had anyone show the slightest bit of interest in what I was reading while I was on my break at work. But as I said, maybe it's just me.
  
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  Who was more selfless? Jesus or Brenda Lee Marquez McCool?

  by Wasanelder Once in

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  jesus was a perfect sinless human (they say) who came to die for mankind.

  he gave up his perfect life for all.

  selfless?

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  keyser soze

  This was always one of the things that baffled me about the bible- how Jesus supposedly gave his life for the rest of us.

  Um, no. He slept for three days then was rewarded with a kingship.
  
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  Former Jehovah's Witness admits: We targeted grief-stricken as 'ripe fruit'

  by Londo111 in

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  http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/80708572/former-jehovahs-witness-admits-we-targeted-grief-stricken-as-ripe-fruit.

  jehovah's witnesses target grief and see the recently bereaved as "ripe fruit" for conversion, a former elder of the faith says.. vince and michele tylor​ spoke out after reading the story of wellington woman jean sergent-shadbolt, who received a handwritten letter from a jehovah's witness three months to the day after her step-cousin, friend and flatmate died.. a current senior elder of the faith says it has no policy to target grieving, and those who do so are acting on their own initiative.

  however, he concedes such people may feel guided by jehovah's witness literature.. but vince tylor said he knew of members who would trawl though obituaries to find grieving people, or visit cemeteries.. "not only do we see watchtower printed material suggesting and supporting writing letters from obituaries such as what jean received, but we even have reports and articles of encouragement for jws to go to cemeteries to look for people as well.".

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  keyser soze

  I recall a number of years ago how some sister got my ex wife to go through the news paper obituary and write to people who had just lost a loved one

  I have a workmate who was called on by a JW who had gotten his name and address off of a registry at a mutual acquaintance's funeral. Lord knows how many others on the registry they called on.
  
  
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  Reaction of the JW believers to the 2016 RC

  by EyesOpenHeartBroken in

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  there are threads on the content of the rc and reaction of awake jws here, but how are indoctrinated jws reacting to the convention.

  my family and i have not attended yet, but i am bracing myself for it.

  anybody talking in jw circles?

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  keyser soze

  I'm sure it will go down as the greatest convention ever until next year.

  To be fair, the bar is usually set pretty low.